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Why is peace so difficult to achieve in the modern world?
Each week, Doug brings on guests from around the world to talk about their work and practice.
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Doug Noll, Lawyer turned Peacemaker, is a full time peacemaker and mediator specializing in difficult, complex, and intractable conflicts.
Doug is the author of three books, Elusive Peace: How Modern Diplomatic Strategies Could Better Resolve World Conflicts (Prometheus Books 2011); Sex, Politics & Religion at the Office: The New Competitive Advantage (Auberry Press 2006), with John Boogaert, and Peacemaking: Practicing at the Intersection of Law and Human Conflict (Cascadia 2002).
Doug is a sought-after keynote speaker and advanced mediation trainer.
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12/13/12 - Quieting the Victim, the Persecutor and the Rescuer Within
2:00PM - 3:00PM
Segment 1: We Always Have Choices.
Our guest on this edition of The Doug Noll show is David Emerald Womeldorff. David is a consultant,
executive coach, speaker and author of The Power of TED, a fable on personal leadership that offers an
affective antidote for Karpman’s Drama Triangle. TED (The Empowerment Dynamic) is a way of thinking
and interacting with others. When we apply the principals of TED, we realize that we have choices.
Sometimes they are limited, but we always have choices --- we can choose the outcomes we want in
our lives and how we respond to life’s circumstances. David’s passion is helping people live their lives
as consciously and collaboratively as possible. To find out more about David and his work, please visit
http://www.bainbridgeleadership.com/davidwomeldorff.html
and http://powerofted.com/
Segment 2: The Drama Triangle.
The Drama Triangle is interplay between victim, persecutor, and rescuer. We are a victim anytime we
feel powerless. In order to be a victim, one must have a persecutor. A persecutor can be a human or a
natural disaster or a medical condition, etc. A rescuer is someone/thing that “fixes” the victim or tries to
protect the victim from the persecutor. The rescuer does not have to be a person; it can be an addiction
or anything that temporarily numbs the pain. There is a trap to being in the rescuer role: over time the
rescuer ends up being seen by the victim as the new persecutor. Eventually the victim realizes that they
are being kept powerless by the rescuer.
The Drama Triangle is routed in a mindset that is anxiety-based and reactive in nature. This very mindset
has helped us survive as a species. The reactivity is deeply wired and has been passed down as a survival
mechanism. David says to fix the Drama Triangle we need to shift from a victim orientation to a creator
orientation. When we utilize a creator orientation, the focus is on the outcomes we want to create and
accomplish, instead of what we DON’T want to happen.
Segment 3: The Antidotes.
This is life-long work that takes patience and baby steps. We need to remember that we do have choices
and we can choose a resourceful path. The “moment of choice” is the key point. TED helps us realize
that:
Creator is the antidote to victim
Challenger is the antidote to persecutor
Coach is the antidote to rescuer
Segment 4: Non-Attachment, not Detachment.
One of the greatest challenges that you can have in TED is playing the role of challenger and coach at
the same time. The secret is to cultivate a measure of non-attachment (different than detachment). The
coach supports by asking questions, while the challenger supports by making declarative statements. It
is requires a high level of self-awareness to play these roles and is a life-long practice. Baby steps!
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